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so john boehner is the most reasonable, responsible guy in washington, according to john boehner. do you agree with that? >> well, you know, it's a new day. and perhaps there's a new john boehner. you know, i'm optimistic, and i think that, you know, elections clarify things and so i think this shows a very positive willingness to make a deal perhaps. >> ana, do you agree with that? >> well, zoraida, let's remember what the house of representatives is like. so it's not a high threshold to be the most responsible person in washington. but i do, you know, i do think that john boehner is doing everything he can to signal he's willing to work to the. i think he received a message that the american people said that they want to see some cooperation. and i do think john boehner is a businessman, a business oriented person who understands the economy, and understands that solving the fiscal cliff would be an important part of not having the economy go off a cliff again. now the big question is, okay, so john boehner thinks he's the most responsible person in washington. will his republic
so john boehner is the most reasonable, responsible guy in washington, according to john boehner. do you agree with that? >> well, you know, it's a new day. and perhaps there's a new john boehner. you know, i'm optimistic, and i think that, you know, elections clarify things and so i think this shows a very positive willingness to make a deal perhaps. >> ana, do you agree with that? >> well, zoraida, let's remember what the house of representatives is like. so it's not a high...
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i'm encouraged by what speaker boehner said about revenues. he may have hedged that a little bit in the last 24 hours and may want to see where he can get it from tax reform first, but ultimately, republicans are acknowledging which is a good sign that there has to be revenue as part of this deal. same thing on the democratic side -- >> you think it's posture right now, some of this stuff we're hearing? >> i think it's what harry reid said. there's a lot of dancing going on but i think we'll get to the fixing pretty soon. >> gloria, everyone sees the fiscal cliff coming here. how much can congress get done in the lame duck especially if they are only going to give it a week or so? >> you know, that's a big question. look, there are two things to consider here. first of all is the question of the bush tax cuts for the wealthy expiring. the president has said that's going to happen and that's the real stumbling block here before you get even to the larger question of the fiscal cliff. everybody knows in the larger package, everybody wants to do
i'm encouraged by what speaker boehner said about revenues. he may have hedged that a little bit in the last 24 hours and may want to see where he can get it from tax reform first, but ultimately, republicans are acknowledging which is a good sign that there has to be revenue as part of this deal. same thing on the democratic side -- >> you think it's posture right now, some of this stuff we're hearing? >> i think it's what harry reid said. there's a lot of dancing going on but i...
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i'm encouraged about what speaker boehner said about revenues. may have hedged that a bit in the last 24 hours. may want to see where he can get it from tax reform first, ultimately, republicans are acknowledges, which is a good sign, there has to be revenue as part of the deal. >> you think it's posturing right now? >> i think it's what harry reid said. a lot of dancing going on. but i think we'll get to the thick pretty soon. >> everybody sees the fiscal cliff coming. how much can congress get done, especially if they only give it a week or so? >> that's the big question. two things to consider here. first is the question of the bush tax cuts for the wealthy expiring. the president has said that's going to happen, and that's the real stumbling block here, before you get even to the larger question of the fiscal cliff. everybody knows in the larger package, everybody wants to do tax reform, mitt romney proposed capping deductions, for example, during a campaign, something republicans might be able to sign on to, but even before they get to tax r
i'm encouraged about what speaker boehner said about revenues. may have hedged that a bit in the last 24 hours. may want to see where he can get it from tax reform first, ultimately, republicans are acknowledges, which is a good sign, there has to be revenue as part of the deal. >> you think it's posturing right now? >> i think it's what harry reid said. a lot of dancing going on. but i think we'll get to the thick pretty soon. >> everybody sees the fiscal cliff coming. how...
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where boehner is saying let's deal with this in 2013. he's actually trying to get this off the lame duck altogether, which is the way to ensure there's not a big deal. so in addition to the question about whether we are going to see a ball loance of revenues a spending cuts is whether we're going to get a big deficit deal which the president clearly wants and thinks is important. what you're hearing from boehner and mcconnell in washington speak is we don't want a deal, we don't want to go off the cliff and the only thing left is to punt. and i think that's a dangerous place as well because this is the issue one of the few times congress might be forced to actually do its job and get a budget passed for the american people. so when this question comes up about the bigger issue are we going to get a deal or not, what i'm hearing from boehner is no and the president yes. >> but the president's leverage doesn't go away if you punt for six months. i mean, it's not clear to me -- i agree with you that's one way to read the boehner/mcconnell p
where boehner is saying let's deal with this in 2013. he's actually trying to get this off the lame duck altogether, which is the way to ensure there's not a big deal. so in addition to the question about whether we are going to see a ball loance of revenues a spending cuts is whether we're going to get a big deficit deal which the president clearly wants and thinks is important. what you're hearing from boehner and mcconnell in washington speak is we don't want a deal, we don't want to go off...
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. >> jessica, we heard boehner, john boehner, actually within the last 30 minutes or so talking about that there are ways to raise revenue and spending cuts as well in a all options are on the table. do you think the white house sees that as some sort of opening, if you will, to negotiations? >> i think both sides are hopeful there is wiggle room for negotiations. everyby knowthat sething s to gone becauseh economy will take such a serious hit if it doesn't. here is where i see the battle line right now. republicans on capitol hill tell me they are willing to raise revenue. that's a big change. they are willing to raise revenue, but without a change in the tax rates. the president has said that the highest earning americans have to pay more. congressional republicans saying no change to the tax rates. that's a big difference of opinion. they'll have to find a way to bridge that divide. beyond that, they're willing to compromise on entitlements. they're willing to find cuts, so there does seem to be room for compromise. there's also a willingness to get something done and avoid the hit
. >> jessica, we heard boehner, john boehner, actually within the last 30 minutes or so talking about that there are ways to raise revenue and spending cuts as well in a all options are on the table. do you think the white house sees that as some sort of opening, if you will, to negotiations? >> i think both sides are hopeful there is wiggle room for negotiations. everyby knowthat sething s to gone becauseh economy will take such a serious hit if it doesn't. here is where i see the...
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we're hearing from speaker boehner, we're hearing from the president. tell me more about how markets are reacting. >> first of all, you look at how the markets are doing, they are pretty flat. triple digit plunge made any real gains that we saw in the market today they fizzled out, brooke, right after president obama's speech. the dow up more than 70 points before we spoke to the nation about the looming fiscal cliff. and you saw the gains slowly but surely disappear. didn't deliver anything new. that's how the market sees it. more of a call to action. investors are nervous and they're showing it. look how the dow did the past couple of days. two days, between wednesday and thursday, it fell 430 points. more than 430 points. as you can see, it's wavering all day today. you know, investors, they have been moving money into bonds. that's a safer investment. they don't feel like they want to leave their money and stocks. it's a clear sign that wall street wants to hear more and wants more clarity on the fiscal cliff. brooke, with no end in sight, it is fea
we're hearing from speaker boehner, we're hearing from the president. tell me more about how markets are reacting. >> first of all, you look at how the markets are doing, they are pretty flat. triple digit plunge made any real gains that we saw in the market today they fizzled out, brooke, right after president obama's speech. the dow up more than 70 points before we spoke to the nation about the looming fiscal cliff. and you saw the gains slowly but surely disappear. didn't deliver...
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house speaker john boehner says he's ready to talk. >> talk about all kinds of things we may disagree on. i'm the most reasonable, responsible person here in washington. the president knows this. he knows that he and i can work together. now the election is over. now it's time to get to work. >> brianna keilar is at the white house. so, brianna, what do you expect president obama to say in this afternoon's remarks? >> reporter: carol, i think this is really going to be him sort of setting the scene and explaining to the american people what is at stake here, some of the things that christine outlined. we know that yesterday the cbo, congressional budget office put out a report saying that really the stakes here, that you could see the country sink into recession next year if we went off the fiscal cliff, that the unemployment rate could jump almost 2%. these are very serious things. this is post election. president obama's chance to kind of turn people's attention to this. and to urge congress to work together and to act. you heard him on tuesday night in chicago talking about the imp
house speaker john boehner says he's ready to talk. >> talk about all kinds of things we may disagree on. i'm the most reasonable, responsible person here in washington. the president knows this. he knows that he and i can work together. now the election is over. now it's time to get to work. >> brianna keilar is at the white house. so, brianna, what do you expect president obama to say in this afternoon's remarks? >> reporter: carol, i think this is really going to be him...
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listen to what john boehner said about being reasonable. some rhetoric that's very con silltory. >> we talk about all kinds of things we may disagree on. i'm the most reasonable responsible person here in washington. the president knows this. he knows that he and i can work together. now the election is over. now it's time to get to work. >> reporter: now the important thing that speaker boehner said, soledad, was that increased revenue would be on the table. so that's the thing to tell you that there may be some middle ground. of course, the devil is in the details. the idea here, though, is that if a framework could be worked on, you may see deductions close, tax credits go away. some deductions, some loopholes closed. and, you know, a lot of people -- even if they're in that top income bracket where they're supposed to be paying 35% or that's the maximum they would pay, some of them effectively are not paying that. they still could be paying more in tax dollars. that could create more revenue. yet the tax rate itself could not go up. com
listen to what john boehner said about being reasonable. some rhetoric that's very con silltory. >> we talk about all kinds of things we may disagree on. i'm the most reasonable responsible person here in washington. the president knows this. he knows that he and i can work together. now the election is over. now it's time to get to work. >> reporter: now the important thing that speaker boehner said, soledad, was that increased revenue would be on the table. so that's the thing to...
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speaker boehner spoke with abc. let's listen to what he had to say about that interview. >> raising tax rates is unacceptable. and, frankly, it couldn't even pass the house. putti putting increased revenues on the table, but through reforming our tax code. and i would do that if the president were serious about solving our spending problem, and trying to secure our entitlement programs. >> reporter: so there you have it. he said raising tax rates is unacceptable. this is really the new slash old mantra. he says, again, revenues are on the table, but they have to come from the right place, which means tax reform and not raising rates on higher earners, so we're likely to hear more of that today. i spoke with a spokesman who said right now, no scheduled meetings between principles or staff. we're going to hear him continue to make the same points, most likely, ashleigh. >> all right. athena jones, thank you for that. we'll continue to follow and wait for those remarks, too. >>> so now i'm going to move on to this. it'
speaker boehner spoke with abc. let's listen to what he had to say about that interview. >> raising tax rates is unacceptable. and, frankly, it couldn't even pass the house. putti putting increased revenues on the table, but through reforming our tax code. and i would do that if the president were serious about solving our spending problem, and trying to secure our entitlement programs. >> reporter: so there you have it. he said raising tax rates is unacceptable. this is really the...
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president obama and house speaker john boehner haven't budged. yesterday we heard of talk of olive branches and reaching across the aisle. but this evening speaker bonner said this to abc news. >> raising tax rates is unacceptable and frankly couldn't even pass the house. i'm not sure it can pass the senate. >> he could be right about that. he's talking about raising tax rates. jessica yellin reminded us today that the white house has vowed to veto any bill that doesn't extend the bush tax cuts for families making $250,000, less than $250 a year. he's been very explicit. tax rates will be raised for people who make more than that amount of money. so how did the president respond to john boehner's line in the sand? well we haven't heard from him since he returned to washington yesterday. we were told though by the white house this evening he'll make a statement on the fiscal cliff tomorrow but as far as what we know right now the administration says the president has already laid out his plan. it's a plan he says would cut the deficit by $4 trilli
president obama and house speaker john boehner haven't budged. yesterday we heard of talk of olive branches and reaching across the aisle. but this evening speaker bonner said this to abc news. >> raising tax rates is unacceptable and frankly couldn't even pass the house. i'm not sure it can pass the senate. >> he could be right about that. he's talking about raising tax rates. jessica yellin reminded us today that the white house has vowed to veto any bill that doesn't extend the...
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speaker boehner says this without getting into too much detail. i saw a poll just before the election, 65% of americans were quite happy for people earning more than a quarter of a million dollars a year to pay more tax. how long can the republicans led by the grover norquist gang sustain a position of there is zero movement or flexibility for any increased taxation when most americans think it's perfectly reasonable given there's a $16 trillion debt that the wealthiest should pay more tax? >> let's give some examples of where the two sides could come together. let's say that if you're president obama hypothetically you wanted to have the wealthy pay more, for example, within entitlement reform i think you could get a bipartisan coalition of people to say in the future, not for current recipients but in the future, we're going to means test certain aspects of entitlement benefits and that the wealthy will either pay more or won't qualify for as much. in the area of the tax code, i think you could get agreement to say that certain deductions, exemp
speaker boehner says this without getting into too much detail. i saw a poll just before the election, 65% of americans were quite happy for people earning more than a quarter of a million dollars a year to pay more tax. how long can the republicans led by the grover norquist gang sustain a position of there is zero movement or flexibility for any increased taxation when most americans think it's perfectly reasonable given there's a $16 trillion debt that the wealthiest should pay more tax?...
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boehner's comments. they are interpreting it, according to traders i've talked to anyway, as an opening, if you will, which john, you really just mentioned. but eamon, we expect this event to happen momentarily, but how much influence do you think, if any at all, the congressional budget office detailing what might happen to the unemployment rate might have on these particular discussions? i mean they said that if all -- if we go over the fiscal cliff, that we might see an unemployment rate spike to above 9%. do you think that that pushes it a little bit for both sides to really get together and get something done? >> well, look. unemployment over9% is definitely an eye opening figure. but i think the folks in washington know this is a bad deal. they know it is a worst case scenario if we go over the fiscal cliff. there are some in both parties who argue that it might be best to actually go over the fiscal cliff for a variety of tactical and ideological reasons but most folks in washington, sort of where
boehner's comments. they are interpreting it, according to traders i've talked to anyway, as an opening, if you will, which john, you really just mentioned. but eamon, we expect this event to happen momentarily, but how much influence do you think, if any at all, the congressional budget office detailing what might happen to the unemployment rate might have on these particular discussions? i mean they said that if all -- if we go over the fiscal cliff, that we might see an unemployment rate...
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john boehner has his own base. i always struck chuck last night, john boehner comes out in that interview and talks about immigration reform. watch tweeter, afterwards. steve king from iowa, john fleming from louisiana. house conservatives. i talked to staffers, they said they don't represent the house but you give them attention. when they go to twitter and tee off in the minutes after their speakers talks about immigration reform. >> steve king is already making noises about running for the tom harkin seat. is harkin retiring? we don't know for sure. that's been the long assumption. big opportunity for republicans midterm. iowa on top of the ticket. >> abs lieuly. >> already we know that there's going to be a real republican primary. mitch mcconnell and john corbin basically went about this in a placate the base, contindon't, know, disrupt this. and it failed. now, they're not getting blame and i'm surprised. >> here's the deal. in 2010 they did get involved in a lot of places. >> they tried. >> they tried. most
john boehner has his own base. i always struck chuck last night, john boehner comes out in that interview and talks about immigration reform. watch tweeter, afterwards. steve king from iowa, john fleming from louisiana. house conservatives. i talked to staffers, they said they don't represent the house but you give them attention. when they go to twitter and tee off in the minutes after their speakers talks about immigration reform. >> steve king is already making noises about running for...
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but after the election, speaker boehner and now that the american people have spoken, speaker boehner has more weight behind him to say to his caucus, folks, get in line. >> in last night's interview the speaker talked about obama care. i want to remind everybody what he had to say about that. >> the alexeis that. the the president is reelected. obama care is the law of the land. >> but you won't be spending the time next year trying to repeal obama care? >> there may be parts of it that we believe need e to be changed. we may do that. no decisions at this point. >> okay. obama care is the law of the land. maybe parts of it could be changed. it seems very conciliatory. but almost immediately, the speaker sent out a tweet saying that the goal is and will remain full repeal. and there it is. obama care is the law of the land but it's threatening jobs. our goal will remain full repeal. is the speaker talking out of both sides of his mouth. he's either lying to diane sawyer or to everybody on twit per. >> the goal is full repeal. at the end of the day, given the fact the president has bee
but after the election, speaker boehner and now that the american people have spoken, speaker boehner has more weight behind him to say to his caucus, folks, get in line. >> in last night's interview the speaker talked about obama care. i want to remind everybody what he had to say about that. >> the alexeis that. the the president is reelected. obama care is the law of the land. >> but you won't be spending the time next year trying to repeal obama care? >> there may be...
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listen to what he and boehner have said since the election, boehner is clearly open to revenue, doesn't want rates to go up. the president is going to reassert that wealthy have to pay some. but you can actually bridge that divide if you get into pay through something other than higher rates. for example, closing off deductions. those are the kind of -- >> the thing that mitt romney was talking about but was not specific in one of the debates. >> if you think about it the president has talked about tax reform, his acceptance speech. i don't expect him to get into details of how he'll do that. the key is the tone as andrew was saying, people confidence is very important here, es special lir to the markets, the economy, the president to come out and say we won here's the mandate you take this, take our conditions or you'll bear it on your head if a recession happens, that i think is not what the markets want to see. >> and andrew ross sorkin, as we wait for the president to walk in, what -- we see now is that the gang of eight have been meeting. you've had bob corker and others participat
listen to what he and boehner have said since the election, boehner is clearly open to revenue, doesn't want rates to go up. the president is going to reassert that wealthy have to pay some. but you can actually bridge that divide if you get into pay through something other than higher rates. for example, closing off deductions. those are the kind of -- >> the thing that mitt romney was talking about but was not specific in one of the debates. >> if you think about it the president...
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you have a group whether it's mcconnell actually much more explicit than boehner in the senate, or boehner saying we can play around with the tax code to increase revenues but not increase rates. those are pretty unkwif cal lines. the realm of agreement between medicare, defense, et cetera is a widely shared realm. that line in the sand -- when you think from wall street and a business perspective seems far too bright given somebody has to pull back from the brink. >> you're saying that their sides are to distinct -- >> on this one issue. they drew a clear line about an issue is revenue inconsequenceal. you don't get to this by raising taxes on the wealthy. we have made this an issue. >> the president made it an issue. >> in our exit polling where he has the aagreement of people. not necessarily popular because most people would like to see no one's taxes go up but 46% or about said they want it or would be in agreement with meem who make over 250,000. >> the polls aren't important -- what's important is he won a huge election. does that give him a mandate to do everything he ever said? of
you have a group whether it's mcconnell actually much more explicit than boehner in the senate, or boehner saying we can play around with the tax code to increase revenues but not increase rates. those are pretty unkwif cal lines. the realm of agreement between medicare, defense, et cetera is a widely shared realm. that line in the sand -- when you think from wall street and a business perspective seems far too bright given somebody has to pull back from the brink. >> you're saying that...
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boehner, speaker boehner? >> well, i take -- you know, you can flip around what andrea said and turn it on its head. it's a huge challenge but also a huge opportunity. we were talking about legacy before. what a hinge this re-election is. you know, if he had lost in a very practical way, if he had lost, the republicans probably would have repealed obamacare. so his great achievement would have been reduced to rubble, right? instead, it's now up there on the mantel as a great trophy, the great democratic achievement of his first term. you know, him getting re-elected makes the stimulus okay. >> not just of his first term, i mean, that's the great democratic achievement of the last generation. >> yeah, absolutely. so he's got that now, right? and he's now had his vision of having saved the country from the second great depression, ratifying. now he turns to the second term, and he has this opportunity to deal with fiscal cliff. it's a huge problem. if he fails, it could destroy his second term. but if he achieve
boehner, speaker boehner? >> well, i take -- you know, you can flip around what andrea said and turn it on its head. it's a huge challenge but also a huge opportunity. we were talking about legacy before. what a hinge this re-election is. you know, if he had lost in a very practical way, if he had lost, the republicans probably would have repealed obamacare. so his great achievement would have been reduced to rubble, right? instead, it's now up there on the mantel as a great trophy, the...
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boehner." we will focus more on that issue and issues facing latino voters later on in today's "washington journal." we will go to the democrat line. ida from longwood, florida. what is the most import issue for you in the second term? caller: the most apparent issue that the news wanted to think is the fiscal cliff. it is interesting the word fiscal cliff is a cliche for "how much money is going to be taken out of the $150 million ira's of mr. romney." understand that the fiscal cliff was imposed by bush to keep the tax benefits for the rich in place. and then in a compromise, obama continued those for another year. because in 2008 there were supposed to run out. nobody is talking about the compromise that he made not to actually bring the the 2008 provisions into place. we have four things we're looking at. they can lead that policy continue. t policycan let tha tpoli continue. some say it will increase spending cuts and will weigh heavily on growth and possibly drive the economy back into a
boehner." we will focus more on that issue and issues facing latino voters later on in today's "washington journal." we will go to the democrat line. ida from longwood, florida. what is the most import issue for you in the second term? caller: the most apparent issue that the news wanted to think is the fiscal cliff. it is interesting the word fiscal cliff is a cliche for "how much money is going to be taken out of the $150 million ira's of mr. romney." understand that...
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this was a bright spot in boehner's interview. he was asked if republicans will still pursue full repeat. >> i think the election changes that. it's pretty clear the president was reelected. obama care is the law of the land. >> but you won't be extending the time next year trying to repeal obama-care? >> there are certainly maybe parts of it we believe that need to be changed. we may do that. no decisions at this point. >> wait a minute. a short while later, boehner walked back his answer on twitter. obama care is the law of the land, but it's raising costs and hurting small businesses. our goal remains full repeat? it looks like he's scared of the tea partiers in the caucus. president obama was close to persuade ing him on a grand bargain before boehner buckled. i guess you could say this time around they don't need boehner. they hold not all the carts, but more cards, and the middle eastern people are clearly behind this president, they elected a more progress i have senate. senator patty murray, who led the democratic senatori
this was a bright spot in boehner's interview. he was asked if republicans will still pursue full repeat. >> i think the election changes that. it's pretty clear the president was reelected. obama care is the law of the land. >> but you won't be extending the time next year trying to repeal obama-care? >> there are certainly maybe parts of it we believe that need to be changed. we may do that. no decisions at this point. >> wait a minute. a short while later, boehner...
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house speaker john boehner is doing the dance of the seven veils. ♪ >> a day after the president's re-election, the speaker of the house opened the door to additional tax revenues. >> we're willing to accept new revenue under the right conditions. >> but after that telling peekaboo, boehner pulled back, announcing tax increases are not an option. >> raising tax rates is unacceptable. >> raising tax rates will slow down our ability to create the jobs that everyone says they want. >> last night, he revealed to diane sawyer that his party was no longer seeking to repeal the affordable care act. >> well, i think the election changes that. it's pretty clear that the president was elected, obama care is the law of the land. >> but you won't be spending the time next year trying to repeal obama care. >> there may be parts of it that we believe need to be changed. we may do that. no decisions at this point. >> but hours after that interview, boehner shrouded himself once again tweeting, obama care is law of the land but it is raising costs and threatening jobs. our goal has been and will remain #full
house speaker john boehner is doing the dance of the seven veils. ♪ >> a day after the president's re-election, the speaker of the house opened the door to additional tax revenues. >> we're willing to accept new revenue under the right conditions. >> but after that telling peekaboo, boehner pulled back, announcing tax increases are not an option. >> raising tax rates is unacceptable. >> raising tax rates will slow down our ability to create the jobs that everyone...
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what did you hear from john boehner? he said he's willing to budge on revenue, not hike taxes, but is that enough. what are republicans willing to give here. >> the jury is still out. speaker boehner should put his r revenue plan on the table. i mean based on this republican theory that's been proven wrong by history that somehow by giving folks at the top of the income ladder a tax break, you'll create all this economic activity and it will pay for itself and not increase the deficit. we know that failed because what happened after we tried that last time was jobs went down and the deficit went up. so i think the speaker shoumd do what he says that he wants to do. put this out in public. the president has put his plan in public. it was a central part of the debate. saying that folks at the higher end should pay more to reduce our deficit because if we don't ask them to chip in more, it means everybody else gets hit harder. >> you heard what he said. we're not going to raise taxes on small business. and for republicans,
what did you hear from john boehner? he said he's willing to budge on revenue, not hike taxes, but is that enough. what are republicans willing to give here. >> the jury is still out. speaker boehner should put his r revenue plan on the table. i mean based on this republican theory that's been proven wrong by history that somehow by giving folks at the top of the income ladder a tax break, you'll create all this economic activity and it will pay for itself and not increase the deficit. we...
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>> yeah and i asked speaker boehner that today. i said what is your leverage? and he says we kept the majority and ran on no new taxes, but the nuance here is important. and the nuance is john boehner and barack obama, and we have a story posted right now that says this barack obama didn't once mention the word race. he said he wants the wealthy to pay more. so if the president says he wants the wealthy to pay more, that means he could keep the rates the name. john boehner said he want no higher tax rates, so they aren't so far apart, but liberals will not be happy if that's the case. >> jennifer: well, unless though, if the president is able to orchestrate a way where they would generate just as much revenue in removing those deductions and loopholes from the wealthy, as they would from seeing the rates go up, what is the difference? >> i'm not denying that. but letting the top two rates expire brings in about $960 billion over ten years. that's a lot of money. that's almost enough to turn off the automatic spending cuts plus in place. i don't know that puttin
>> yeah and i asked speaker boehner that today. i said what is your leverage? and he says we kept the majority and ran on no new taxes, but the nuance here is important. and the nuance is john boehner and barack obama, and we have a story posted right now that says this barack obama didn't once mention the word race. he said he wants the wealthy to pay more. so if the president says he wants the wealthy to pay more, that means he could keep the rates the name. john boehner said he want no...
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boehner's tone was good. when you look inside and say, we can rely on dynamic scoring, when you begin to dissect that, it has some problems. i am hopeful that with the business community's help, and with the president paz's leadership, we can bring the republicans around. >> we talked about [indiscernible] 3 numbers [indiscernible] do you have a strategy for trying to pass the middle class tax [indiscernible] are you trying to do that [indiscernible] the tax issue, and are you going to [indiscernible] >> the general thrust of your question. i think most of our colleagues say the senate needs to be fixed, that there is something wrong with it. there will be a lot of discussions about that over the next few weeks. i will not comment on specifics until we have those discussions. it needs to be done not just for one particular issue, but in general, to get the senate working better. >> [indiscernible] >> any agreement, because we have to pass things in the house and senate, passed the bar partisan -- has to be bi
boehner's tone was good. when you look inside and say, we can rely on dynamic scoring, when you begin to dissect that, it has some problems. i am hopeful that with the business community's help, and with the president paz's leadership, we can bring the republicans around. >> we talked about [indiscernible] 3 numbers [indiscernible] do you have a strategy for trying to pass the middle class tax [indiscernible] are you trying to do that [indiscernible] the tax issue, and are you going to...
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john boehner not wanting the president to get all of the limelight, john boehner gave an exclusive one on one interview last night. she wasn't drunk. >> oh, really? >> bill: does anybody believe this? >> i'm the most reasonable responsibility person out here. the president knows he and i can work together. >> bill: i'm the most reasonable man in washington except eric cantor has a gun to my head. >> yeah. >> bill: and to show how totally in denial he is. >> i think this has been the host misreported story of my two years. we don't have a tea party caucus to speak of in the house. >> bill: maybe he should tell michele bachmann that who started the tea party caucus in the house. and tell the 63 tea party republicans that there is no tea party in the house. >> what is he doing? >> bill: i don't know. and again, all they do is lie. michele bachmann started the tea party caucus. maybe they don't always get their way, he can say, but they do. it is the tail wagging the dog we have seen that for the last two years under john boehner. he is not a bad guy, but he is not a leader, and he is not
john boehner not wanting the president to get all of the limelight, john boehner gave an exclusive one on one interview last night. she wasn't drunk. >> oh, really? >> bill: does anybody believe this? >> i'm the most reasonable responsibility person out here. the president knows he and i can work together. >> bill: i'm the most reasonable man in washington except eric cantor has a gun to my head. >> yeah. >> bill: and to show how totally in denial he is....
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speaker boehner has to start counting votes. he has the majority in numbers but how much he can do or thought do, that will be dependent on a handful of fiscal conservatives on the right. >>neil: would charlie rangel be okay with a plan initially for republicans if this is what they put forward to close the loopholes and transaction breaks for millionaires without formally raising the rates and that is their initial proposal on revenue meaning taxes go up but it is not formally raising rates would you say yes or month? >>guest: there is enough money there to make it renew neutral but we have to raise money from the upper income people. >>neil: and the only way did do it in your eyes is to raise the rates? >>guest: we have to really see what he is talking about because they get a lot of preferential treatment in the tax code. >>neil: you could do it? >>guest: it is possible to do that if you cut out all the prefer usual treatment they are getting. that is not going to be easy. everyone wants tax cuts and get rid of loopholes. >>n
speaker boehner has to start counting votes. he has the majority in numbers but how much he can do or thought do, that will be dependent on a handful of fiscal conservatives on the right. >>neil: would charlie rangel be okay with a plan initially for republicans if this is what they put forward to close the loopholes and transaction breaks for millionaires without formally raising the rates and that is their initial proposal on revenue meaning taxes go up but it is not formally raising...
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i think that boehner will tend to ignore the tea party members. i think whoever is the democratic leader will probably ignore the kind of move on dot-org members. >> greta: you know what, tell me you what really annoy meas. everybody has known about the fiscal cliff for a year and-a-half. in november last year, we knew it was going to happen. now we have had the election, we paid their salaries while they ran for office on both sides of the aisle. they have six weeks to come up with a deal. it is want much time. on the edge of six weeks coming up, what happens? we need everybody to get in the same room. president needs to call the major leader and the speaker. what does the president do? he plans an overseas trip into burma, instead of staying home and bringing everybody to the oval office and pounding out an agreement? >> what the president has to do is to propose a budget, propose a plan. he didn't do it in the debt limit fight. he let one emerge from the negotiations. i don't think that's a presidential leadership. he needs to submit a program
i think that boehner will tend to ignore the tea party members. i think whoever is the democratic leader will probably ignore the kind of move on dot-org members. >> greta: you know what, tell me you what really annoy meas. everybody has known about the fiscal cliff for a year and-a-half. in november last year, we knew it was going to happen. now we have had the election, we paid their salaries while they ran for office on both sides of the aisle. they have six weeks to come up with a...
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boehner talk about not raising rates. so is there some sort of compromise in the difference between the term rates and revenues? >> i done think will is any question. and actually there's a lot of commonality on that issue in the senate. the fact is that folks in the upper income bracket lick me, we ought to eliminate loopholes and those kinds of things that are you really spending in another name. so we can generate more revenues from the upper income by eliminating those tax expenditures which really, again, is just spending in another name. and i think-- bses you can give us an example of how -- >> there are all kind of expenditures there is a home mortgage deduction. charitable contribution, the health care exclusion. and the best way to keep from getting into a political argument over which one is just to cap the amount that people in upper income brackets can take of any of those. let them choose which they want to take. but there's been a lot of discussion in the senate over this. and i think a lot of people have c
boehner talk about not raising rates. so is there some sort of compromise in the difference between the term rates and revenues? >> i done think will is any question. and actually there's a lot of commonality on that issue in the senate. the fact is that folks in the upper income bracket lick me, we ought to eliminate loopholes and those kinds of things that are you really spending in another name. so we can generate more revenues from the upper income by eliminating those tax...
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you have to give boehner credit. he said new revenue. >> the president goes to sleep tonight he's thinking, i won. must be tremendous relief on his part. then he's thinking down the road, because he is thinking of the future, he's going wait a minute, i got two big risks. one i can't defend my philosophy which my base will hate and i will hate myself for it. michelle will hate me for it. and we need more money to do more things. the other fear is i'm going off the fiscal cliff, meaning i tried so hard to get my way that we screwed it up with the republicans like we did last august and nothing gets done and the economy tanks again for a second recession and i'm going down in history as a double failure. >> he can't let that happen. >> at some point he has to pull back from the paul krugmans of the world and the people on the far left, not far left but left, and say i'm president, you're a columnist. >> right. he has -- he's going to get a lot of flack from both his own left flank and the right. he has to accept that.
you have to give boehner credit. he said new revenue. >> the president goes to sleep tonight he's thinking, i won. must be tremendous relief on his part. then he's thinking down the road, because he is thinking of the future, he's going wait a minute, i got two big risks. one i can't defend my philosophy which my base will hate and i will hate myself for it. michelle will hate me for it. and we need more money to do more things. the other fear is i'm going off the fiscal cliff, meaning i...